Larry Ellison's AI-Powered Surveillance Dystopia Is Already Here
(404media.co)46 points by walterbell 2 months ago | 12 comments
46 points by walterbell 2 months ago | 12 comments
acheong08 2 months ago | prev | next |
It might be worth it to just live in a less advanced country that isn’t capable of such advanced surveillance
ChrisArchitect 2 months ago | prev | next |
Earlier:
Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison
gizajob 2 months ago | prev |
Yet amazingly, crimes will still happen about as regularly.
bravetraveler 2 months ago | root | parent | next |
More crime! People/things tend to react counterintuitively. Surrounded by paradox. If everything is monitored, nothing is. We get comfortable seeing too much... for there is too much to see.
Similarly: armed guards in gentrified neighborhoods. Old ladies feel safe, I don't. You know. Game theory.
JohnFen 2 months ago | root | parent |
> armed guards in gentrified neighborhoods
It's interesting, isn't it? When I see armed guards, regardless of the setting, the message I get is not "you're safe", it's "this area is so dangerous that they need armed guards".
I have the same reaction (albeit to a lesser degree) when I see surveillance cameras, especially ones installed by regular people.
bravetraveler 2 months ago | root | parent | next |
Very interesting, indeed! I deliberate over this far too much for my own mental health. Feedback loops on feedback loops.
My life experience has been such that... I'll worry about the things these guards are supposed to be here for if/when it happens. It won't, and if it does, I know how to handle myself. It probably won't be the first, second, or third time. I consider anyone with a weapon a liability. Including me... but especially 'not me'.
The cameras are so gross. Please don't subscribe to surveillance, talk to your neighbors! If only community were really so easy...
JohnFen 2 months ago | root | parent |
> If only community were really so easy...
I've actually found that it is pretty easy. All it takes is to be willing to talk to your neighbors. Not necessarily in terms of engaging them with deep and long conversations, but just lots of the little "meaningless" ones. Saying hello in passing instead of pretending they don't exist. Learning, remembering, and addressing them by their names. Asking how they're doing. Asking how their kids, spouse, work, etc. is getting along. Offering a helping hand every so often goes a long way, too.
It seems to me that social isolation is self-reinforcing, and that once someone starts breaking the ice, the interactions that create community start to happen naturally.
It's these interactions that form the foundations of community. It's not a matter of making friends with your neighbors, but a matter of having your neighbors no longer actually be strangers.
This turned into a lecture I didn't intend. My intention was just to relay my observations and experiences with my neighbors.
taskforcegemini 2 months ago | root | parent |
cameras usually aren't for the neighbors
rightbyte 2 months ago | root | parent | prev | next |
The guards them-self are a major threat, too.
Armed people that feel they are supposed to keep things under control have a tendency to do strange things.
The external threat need to be quite bad before they are worth the risk.
NikkiA 2 months ago | root | parent | prev |
My reactive thought is usually 'warning: power trips ahead'
neuralRiot 2 months ago | root | parent | prev |
The end goal is “security theatre” and profit, not real security.
potato3732842 2 months ago | next |
Larry Ellison doesn't have to worry about being profiled as an easy mark to contribute toward some government enforcement worker's KPIs (which themselves are frequently the result of less than noble goals) or getting screwed as part of some higher level initiative to go hard on some thing so of course he sees no danger in this sort of thing.
Edit: Now that I think about it you can sub in entire demographics in place of "Larry Ellison" and the above statement still holds other than the usual error from using a broad brush.